greenwitch: Kahlan (LOTS confessor)
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I've been meaning to make myself a cloak for a while now, but I don't know where to get the fabric. I've seen some great heavy weight wool cloaks for sale at my local faires, but have never seen that weight fabric at my local stores (only suiting). I'm fine with buying online, but have no idea what to look for in terms of numbers. Does anyone have advice on fiber, weights, and/or places to buy online? 100% wool is best, obviously, but if anyone has any experience with blends, that's okay too.

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Date: 2011-11-13 09:46 pm (UTC)
princess: (Default)
From: [personal profile] princess
I actually made mine out of a double layer of suiting. Then you get the added insulatory power. ;)

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Date: 2011-11-13 10:05 pm (UTC)
princess: (Default)
From: [personal profile] princess
I just treated the inner layer as a lining layer, instead of quilting. I bag-lined it (because I am WAY lazy), and then used the attaching of the (double layered) hood to close it off. It's *very* warm, and nicely waterproof.

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Date: 2011-11-13 09:53 pm (UTC)
msilverstar: (LOTR: Aragorn)
From: [personal profile] msilverstar
There's a whole lot of material in your average cloak, so weight is a big issue. I found heavyweight wool to be too heavy.

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Date: 2011-11-13 11:12 pm (UTC)
sporky_rat: A yellow chocobo from the Final Fantasy series (final fantasy)
From: [personal profile] sporky_rat
I used suiting - two layers of it under an outer shell of a hemp/linen canvas.

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Date: 2011-11-13 11:35 pm (UTC)
holyschist: Image of a medieval crocodile from Herodotus, eating a person, with the caption "om nom nom" (Default)
From: [personal profile] holyschist
I used to have a fairly lightweight wool circle cloak (lined with silk noil), and it was heavy and generally inconvenient--I used it more as a blanket than a cloak, and now I'm planning to turn it into a dress that I'll actually wear. I've found coats with sleeves, cassocks, etc. far more practical (you can use your arms without letting cold air in!).

That said, if you've tried cloaks extensively and like them, I wouldn't go heavier than coat-weight. Fabrics.com often has pretty nice coat-weight wool and wool-blends, although their stock is extremely variable.

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Date: 2011-11-14 01:11 am (UTC)
holyschist: Image of a medieval crocodile from Herodotus, eating a person, with the caption "om nom nom" (Default)
From: [personal profile] holyschist
When you have as much fabric as goes into a cloak, even lightweight wool drapes fine.

Coatweight/heavyweight (melton, etc.): 18-24oz/yd, approximately (if you're thinking full-circle cloak, you probably want lighter than this or your cloak will weigh several pounds, easily--honestly, because of how thick coatweight wool is, it's better for less bulky garments than cloaks, e.g. coats)
Suiting, flannel, etc.: 10-12oz/yd spring/fall, 14-18oz winter

Bah, Fabric.com has a lousy wool selection right now. The thing is, there's no widely agreed-upon standard for weights & names. Generally speaking, most sellers will suggest uses for the wool--if they're suggesting suits, skirts, etc., and it's at least 12oz but less than 18oz, that's probably the weight you want. Plain twills (and tabby, if you can find wool tabby--it's hard) will drape and flow more than tweeds, hounds-tooth, and other fancy weaves. Boiled wool is shrunken and semi-felted, too stiff for cloaks. Tropical weight is probably too light. I'd avoid crepe.

I'm not sure what online sellers you're looking at, but none of my standbys describe in oz without any verbal description. B. Black & Sons is on the higher end of the price range, but their quality is fantastic and you should be able to use their descriptions to match up oz ranges and uses. This is what I made my full circle cloak out of--it's 10.5-11oz, took almost 7 yards (and I am pretty short), and was irritatingly heavy and bulky. I wouldn't go heavier than that. (It was super-duper soft and lovely, though, and I'm excited about turning it into a dress.)

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Date: 2011-11-14 02:08 am (UTC)
lady_myfanwy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lady_myfanwy
Try hamiltondrygoods.com. They are a supplier for civil war re-enactment. But, they have a wonderful selection of wool. I got wool flannel from there to make a full circle cloak. It is to-die-for. Cherry red, which I know isn't period. But, you know, I love it. LOL And, it is wool, soooo... I got it. My husband has the same thing in black. That was several years ago, so I have no idea what they have now. But, they have a lot more than what is on their site. You could try emailing them if you don't see something you like. And, I know the quality is good. They are local to me and I have several friends who have gotten stuff from them, aside from myself.

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Date: 2011-12-28 09:05 pm (UTC)
maco: white brunette woman with a white headcovering and a blue dress (Default)
From: [personal profile] maco
Yes, this. I got my coating weight wool from them for like $12/yd. I made a full-circle cloak, and that took 6yd. Yes, it's heavy if you have it slung over your arm to carry, but wearing it, I don't really feel it. It can handle snow just fine, though.

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Date: 2011-11-14 02:34 am (UTC)
ragnvaeig: (Vogue)
From: [personal profile] ragnvaeig
My answer would really depend upon the style you're going for (e.g. whether a Byzantine chlamys or an Elizabethan half-cape), whether you want it to be all-weather, and what sort of climate you're regularly experiencing. I tend to go with heavier fabrics in looser weave, but that's what's appropriate for my Iron Age persona reenacting in an area with moderately cold winter, and YMMV. Just as SCA-generic I might recommend wool broadcloth as warmer than worsted weight and more appropriate to an outer garment.

In terms of online stores, my favourite is Handelsgillet, but you may not be in Europe. Have you looked at Renaissance Fabrics?

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Date: 2011-11-14 04:38 am (UTC)
reyl: (syrianzoom)
From: [personal profile] reyl
I have a store bought cloak I wear at events when it's really cold, or we are stuck in a drafty hall. It's made of gabardine and lined with polar fleece! No one can see the lining, so it doesn't matter, right? Heheheh.

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